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Summer House just wrapped airing the third part of their season 10 reunion, but due to the explosive situation surrounding Amanda Batula and West Wilson‘s relationship, it’s understandable there’s still a ton of chatter surrounding it.
Carl Radke, who was said to be “a mess” after Amanda and West went public with their romance, sat down for a new interview in which he addressed a breadth of topics related to the show.
Speaking first of West, Carl insisted to Variety that he doesn’t believe “any of us know the real West.”
“It’s hard to be yourself on TV,” he added.
As far as being a “mess” after finding out about Amanda and West, Carl admitted, “Yes, for a 24-hour period I was a mess. I was emotional, feeling very down, feeling confused. Kyle [Cooke] and I were talking a lot during that time. The statement went out, Kyle and I were on the phone and they showed that during Part 1 of the reunion.”
He continued, “The following morning after the statement went out, I was sending Kyle voice notes and was crying on one of the voice notes, saying, ‘This totally destroys our friend group, I feel so bad for you and Ciara, what the f*ck is going on?’ An hour later, he goes outside of his apartment and walks the two dogs and runs into the paparazzi. He says, ‘Carl’s a mess,’ and it becomes this crazy meme.”
As far as his theory on the timeline of when West and Amanda got together, he shared he doesn’t “think the timeline matters” and “you just don’t go after a girl’s ex.”
“So, you don’t go for a girl’s ex, and you don’t go for a guy that’s also friends with your husband – or ex-husband,” he reiterated. ” No timelines matter. You just don’t do it.”
As far as any apologies go, Carl shared that he thinks the “only apology is changing your behavior.”
“That’s the only thing I care about,” he elaborated. “And only time will tell with the behavior and what they’re up to, but their behavior has spoken very loudly. They go to a Yankees game and are making out in public. Now, they’re posting that they want to be back on social again because they want to live their lives. Their behavior has been very telling, I think. I don’t wish any ill will on them and think that this has gotten out of control, but at the same time, if you play dumb games you’re going to win stupid prizes.”
Aside from the Summer House drama, Carl also addressed a controversial situation on In The City; namely, Lindsay Hubbard reviving an old rumor that Danielle Olivera gave Carl a handjob in the back of an Uber during season four of Summer House.
“I don’t understand, and I’m just going to clear the air: That summer, in Season 4, Danielle and I were in an Uber back from Montauk and she was rubbing me over my pants, which is called an OTPHJ – over-the-pants handjob,” Carl explained. “It wasn’t a real handjob, and we all knew it wasn’t a real handjob. She was playing with me and flirting with me and we were not being great people in that moment because me and Lindsay had hooked up and were exploring dating, and then a week later, we’re in an Uber and Danielle is kind of making moves on me.”
“We talked about it very openly, there was no shadiness or real hiding, it’s been discussed on multiple seasons and now, on Season 1 of In the City,” he added. “From my understanding, Danielle is frustrated because with ‘handjob’ versus ‘over-the-pants handjob,’ it’s been spun out of control. I didn’t lie or make anything up!”
Even though Carl’s name has been involved in the In The City drama, he is not on the show.
“I would have loved to be a part of it,” he admitted. “I was not asked, and that’s totally fine. From what I understood, they were focusing on married couples and couples having kids.”
Carl also discussed Erika Kirk’s brief appearance during a Summer House episode many years ago.
“I remember it all. I didn’t know she was ‘Erika Kirk.’ She wasn’t with [Charlie] then,” shared Carl about the then-single Erika Frantzve. “She was doing stuff in New York. I met her and her brunette friend, who was on the double date as well. [Erika] wanted me to date the friend, and I said she should take a look at my friend, Jordan. We did that whole thing, they went on a date or two…”
Carl added, “The whole thing is kind of insane. I’ve been advised to not really talk about it because it doesn’t have to deal with me. But all roads lead to Bravo.”