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Heather Dubrow spoke of how Tamra Judge was different during The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20 on Thursday’s episode of Watch What Happens Live.
As she also called out Vicki Gunvalson‘s boyfriend Michael Smith‘s “red flag,” reacted to Travis Mullen, 40, giving Gina Kirschenheiter, 42, a prototype engagement ring, and responded to Jennifer Pedranti‘s emotional chat with son Greyson, 17, Heather spoke of her regrets, admitted to fearing the upcoming reunion, and shaded Emily Simpson, 50.
“[Tamra is] calmer. She’s more present, and I think it’s all really positive,” Heather, 57, revealed on the July 23 episode of WWHL.
As for Vicki’s suggestion that certain members of the show were friends with Tamra because it’s “easier” than being her enemy, Heather noted, “I think many girls in our group have said that.”
Also of Vicki, Heather reacted to Michael holding an engagement ring over her head.
“That was really interesting to me and [my husband Terry Dubrow] and I, when we talked about it, he thought that was bad. At first, I thought it was silly, but then when I started thinking about it, I thought, right, so if you have the ring, cool, but if you’re telling me you have the ring, and you’re not giving it to me, you’re sending a signal. A little red flag,” she stated.
Regarding Travis’ prototype ring, Heather felt it was a good idea to test out a ring before committing.
“I thought it was smart because it’s an investment and it should be what she wants,” she reasoned.
Moving on to Jenn’s conversation with Greyson about his family struggles and experiences with bullying, Heather described the moment as “relatable.”
“I think the fact that we can have these conversations on our show that are so relatable is amazing, and she’s a great mom, and it’s heartbreaking and hard but also, I think, at the end, positive,” she said.
Then, after saying that Carmella Garcia, 43, gifting Emily a Dior purse was “generous,” not “suspicious,” she admitted to having “so many” regrets.
“You’re living your life, and we’re all humans, and we do and say things that we regret,” she stated.
Looking ahead to the reunion, after admitting she may have thrown her harshest shade yet amid season 20, Heather felt that she could get first chair at the reunion.
“[I’d rather be at the] far end of the couch because if I’m next to you I’ve got problems, and I have a feeling I might be next to you this season,” she revealed.
Later, on the WWHL: After Show, Heather was asked who she was referring to when she said season 20 was her most exhausting.
“Emily,” Heather replied.
She then offered an update on her acting career.
“I feel like I’m starting that whole process. It’s like, I have three kids basically out of the house and one in high school. He just got his permit,” she shared.
As for whether her reality fame got in the way of her acting aspirations, Heather said it did not.
“Well, when I first started the show, I thought it was the last nail in the coffin that had been my scripted career, but the landscape of television has really changed, and I think all it does is expand your platform, and so, no. I don’t think so, and I’m looking forward to whatever comes next,” she declared.
The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.