As Erika attempts to defend herself on the currently-airing reunion special for The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 11, Kathryn labeled her former co-star as a narcissist before commenting on her grim future and reacting to Garcelle Beauvais‘ suggestion that Lisa Rinna attempted to keep race chatter off the show.
“[Erika] can’t come down off that high horse though and that really is a character flaw of hers,” Kathryn said on the October 14 episode of the Behind the Velvet Rope with David Yontef podcast. “She has zero endearing qualities. Please show me a way to have empathy for her. I can’t because she has, she has none for anyone else. She’s a narcissist.”
After taking aim at Erika’s personality, Kathryn went in on her looks.
“There’s a lot of comments about how different Erika’s face is. And I think it’s just depression. It’s bad and she’s probably overeating and salt and who knows? Comfort foods. But I’m a firm believer in ugly always comes out and maybe she’s just shedding right now,” she suspected.
“She doesn’t have a career because she doesn’t have Tom’s money to fund it. I mean, what company is going to touch her with a 10-foot pole when she’s got a $25 million lawsuit against her… and when the judge said that they can go after her for the money?” Kathryn wondered.
Although it was recently reported that Erika makes $600,000 on RHOBH, Kathryn said that when it comes to living in Los Angeles, that isn’t all that much.
“I have to imagine that her lawyer’s fees are huge and I know this sounds really bad, but living in LA with $600,000 a year is still — don’t get me wrong. It’s good money,” she shared. “But after taxes, and then she pays her agent or manager’s fees or whatever else there is, she is by no means socking it away for a rainy day.”
According to Kathryn, Erika’s likely “blowing through every bit of what she’s making” to sustain her lifestyle. After all, producers reportedly encourage their talent to showcase their over-the-top lives on the show.
“I remember when they said to me, they were like, ‘Hey Kathryn, can you and Donnie go Rolls Royce shopping or jewelry shopping?’ And I was like, ‘Huh?’ They were tired of like going to the gym with us or whatever we were doing. That was not exciting. But that’s what they want you to put out there. They literally like direct you to show it all,” Kathryn revealed.
Looking back at the time she spent with Erika on RHOBH, Kathryn recalled a moment in which the two of them nearly came to blows.
“I remember when she was in my face at one time,” Kathryn began. “I was laughing and she was like, trying to tell me [something]. And I was like, ‘Get your finger out of my face.’ I’m kind of laughing because I thought, ‘Oh my God, if she takes one step to me…’ and then I think she said, ‘Or what? … Are you going to hit me?'”
The behavior exhibited, Kathryn said, was that of a bully.
“I think she’s got issues. I think she really needs some serious therapy. And I think maybe after all this, however, the cards fall, maybe she’ll get it,” Kathryn suggested.
Also during the appearance, Kathryn admitted she didn’t enjoy seeing Garcelle and Lisa at odds at the reunion.
“I didn’t like the interaction between Garcelle and Rinna. That was really awkward for me. It gave me flashbacks to [the 12th] season of New York,” Kathryn shared.
Kathryn went on to wonder why Garcelle would wait to confront Lisa about what she had allegedly said about wanting to keep race off the show until the reunion.
“If I was Garcelle and I heard that… I don’t even think I could have asked over the phone. I would want to see the person’s face. I would have had to know the answer right away. I couldn’t hold on or something like that,” she noted.
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 11 reunion, part two, airs Wednesday, October 20, at 8/7c on Bravo.
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